1 00:00:07,090 --> 00:00:08,634 Nate! Finally. 2 00:00:08,717 --> 00:00:10,594 Buddy, I can't believe you're missing this, dude. 3 00:00:10,677 --> 00:00:11,762 The view up here is insane. 4 00:00:11,845 --> 00:00:14,765 The sunset on top of the bridge is mind-blowing. 5 00:00:14,848 --> 00:00:16,642 They weren't joking when they said... 6 00:00:16,725 --> 00:00:18,185 What'd you say? 7 00:00:18,268 --> 00:00:21,271 I'm in Chinatown. There's... there's some festival going on. 8 00:00:21,355 --> 00:00:22,398 Huh? What? 9 00:00:22,481 --> 00:00:23,524 I can barely hear you. 10 00:00:23,607 --> 00:00:25,359 Sorry, Tyler, there's people everywhere. 11 00:00:25,442 --> 00:00:26,693 Where are you? 12 00:00:26,777 --> 00:00:28,195 Yeah, I can't hear you. Say that again. 13 00:00:28,278 --> 00:00:30,531 Hang on a minute. I'm gonna move away from the crowd. 14 00:00:30,614 --> 00:00:32,825 Huh? Can you say that again, man? Where are you? 15 00:00:32,908 --> 00:00:35,453 Oh, it is chaos down here. 16 00:00:35,536 --> 00:00:37,288 You didn't show, so I tried calling you. 17 00:00:37,371 --> 00:00:38,414 Yeah, sorry. 18 00:00:38,497 --> 00:00:39,790 It's all good, I mean... 19 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:42,459 I mean, the tour was at 8:00, but where you been? 20 00:00:42,543 --> 00:00:45,379 The trolls were waiting for me in the hotel lobby. 21 00:00:45,462 --> 00:00:47,423 Trolls? You lose 'em? 22 00:00:47,506 --> 00:00:49,467 -Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. -Okay, good. 23 00:00:49,550 --> 00:00:51,635 Come to me. Jump in a cab and I'll meet you when we get down. 24 00:00:51,718 --> 00:00:54,263 -Hello? -Okay, I'll be there soon. 25 00:00:54,346 --> 00:00:55,639 -Oh! -Nate? 26 00:00:55,722 --> 00:00:57,558 -The hell was that? -Nate? 27 00:00:57,641 --> 00:00:58,893 Oh! 28 00:00:58,976 --> 00:01:00,143 Hello? Nate? 29 00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:01,687 You still with me, buddy? 30 00:01:01,770 --> 00:01:02,897 Nate! 31 00:01:02,980 --> 00:01:04,440 Stop messing around, dude. 32 00:01:04,523 --> 00:01:06,483 Hello? 33 00:01:07,651 --> 00:01:08,777 Nate! 34 00:01:10,153 --> 00:01:12,239 Hello? Nate? 35 00:01:15,284 --> 00:01:16,410 What's going on, buddy? 36 00:01:16,493 --> 00:01:17,869 Ugh. Shooter. 37 00:01:17,953 --> 00:01:20,080 Did you say 'shooter'? Dude, it's hard to hear you. 38 00:01:20,163 --> 00:01:21,331 Did you say 'shooter'? 39 00:01:21,415 --> 00:01:23,417 -Someone's trying to kill me. -What are you... 40 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:24,793 What are you talking about? 41 00:01:24,876 --> 00:01:26,587 Okay, you need to give me your location, man. 42 00:01:26,670 --> 00:01:28,130 Like, a street name, anything. 43 00:01:28,213 --> 00:01:29,965 -Just give me something. -Ugh. 44 00:01:30,048 --> 00:01:31,717 Nate? 45 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,677 Nate, buddy? 46 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,762 Talk to me, Nate! 47 00:01:34,845 --> 00:01:36,638 Nate?! 48 00:01:37,431 --> 00:01:38,932 Dammit! Nate! 49 00:01:39,891 --> 00:01:41,393 Nate, talk to me! 50 00:01:41,476 --> 00:01:44,980 Buddy! Nate! 51 00:02:20,766 --> 00:02:22,392 Special Agent Mackey, NCIS. 52 00:02:23,935 --> 00:02:25,562 Is there a problem? 53 00:02:27,314 --> 00:02:28,899 Thank you, Special Agent Mackey. 54 00:02:36,073 --> 00:02:38,158 Chief Petty Officer Nathaniel 'Nate' Holbrook, 55 00:02:38,241 --> 00:02:40,035 stationed out of Mayport, Florida. 56 00:02:40,118 --> 00:02:41,411 He was out here on leave. 57 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:43,163 Flew out with his brother a few days ago. 58 00:02:43,246 --> 00:02:44,665 Thank you. 59 00:02:44,748 --> 00:02:46,000 Welcome to Sydney. 60 00:02:49,086 --> 00:02:52,089 The shots were fired about a hundred meters down the road. 61 00:02:52,172 --> 00:02:54,383 That's where he caught the wound to his torso. 62 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:57,928 Stuffing from a toy koala. 63 00:02:58,011 --> 00:02:59,471 The shot went right through them both. 64 00:02:59,554 --> 00:03:01,932 Poor bastard ran till he was brought down. 65 00:03:02,015 --> 00:03:04,184 Second round must have gone through his heart 66 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:05,769 if he dropped like that. 67 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,189 He would have... He would have died in seconds. 68 00:03:09,272 --> 00:03:11,191 -Anyone else hit? -No. 69 00:03:11,274 --> 00:03:13,402 Packed street, and the killer 70 00:03:13,485 --> 00:03:15,153 focuses his fire on our boy. 71 00:03:15,237 --> 00:03:16,613 Why? 72 00:03:16,697 --> 00:03:19,282 Yeah, he seems to have a fan base too. 73 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:22,119 -Holbrook, right? -Yeah, Nathaniel Holbrook. 74 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:27,040 Justice for Zoe! 75 00:03:34,881 --> 00:03:36,550 Justice for Zoe. 76 00:03:36,633 --> 00:03:38,927 True crime podcast super fans. 77 00:03:39,010 --> 00:03:41,263 Marsh Family Murders. 78 00:03:41,346 --> 00:03:43,265 It's a podcast based on an Aussie family, 79 00:03:43,348 --> 00:03:44,475 two parents and a daughter, 80 00:03:44,558 --> 00:03:46,518 who were murdered on Thanksgiving Day. 81 00:03:46,601 --> 00:03:47,561 What happened in the end? 82 00:03:47,644 --> 00:03:49,438 Well, according to this, 83 00:03:49,521 --> 00:03:51,022 absolutely nothing. 84 00:03:51,106 --> 00:03:53,150 No one ever stood trial for their deaths. 85 00:03:53,233 --> 00:03:54,651 But the main suspect 86 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:56,903 was US Navy Chief Petty Officer... 87 00:03:56,987 --> 00:03:58,572 Nate Holbrook. 88 00:04:00,157 --> 00:04:02,743 Nate used to date the murdered daughter, Zoe Marsh. 89 00:04:02,826 --> 00:04:05,787 Looks like someone got their justice in the end. 90 00:04:10,917 --> 00:04:13,295 Sorry, little fella. 91 00:04:13,378 --> 00:04:15,089 You're supposed to be a protected species. 92 00:04:15,172 --> 00:04:16,506 Evie! 93 00:04:19,551 --> 00:04:21,136 Got another one. 94 00:04:23,555 --> 00:04:25,182 Come on. 95 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:26,892 Check it out. 96 00:04:26,975 --> 00:04:29,478 .308, full metal jacket. 97 00:04:29,561 --> 00:04:31,438 Favored by long-distance shooters. 98 00:04:31,521 --> 00:04:33,023 That's comforting. 99 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:37,486 Sounds like we got ourselves a sniper. 100 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:39,947 Angle of fire suggests the shooter 101 00:04:40,030 --> 00:04:42,282 had an elevated position. 102 00:04:42,365 --> 00:04:44,201 Plenty of options. 103 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:46,870 Let's narrow 'em down, then. 104 00:04:56,338 --> 00:04:58,924 Damn! Hell of a shot. 105 00:04:59,007 --> 00:05:01,343 Yeah, I could make that. 106 00:05:01,426 --> 00:05:03,178 Girl, in your dreams. 107 00:05:03,261 --> 00:05:05,722 I took out Hansie from a moving boat. 108 00:05:05,806 --> 00:05:07,265 A croc chalked up that hit. 109 00:05:07,349 --> 00:05:08,975 -Oh, whatever. -Ugh! 110 00:05:10,685 --> 00:05:13,563 Shooter doesn't seem bothered about leaving evidence. 111 00:05:21,571 --> 00:05:22,989 D. 112 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:28,036 What is that? Opal? 113 00:05:28,119 --> 00:05:30,873 Yeah, not just any opal. Black opal. 114 00:05:30,956 --> 00:05:32,415 Rarest of the rare. 115 00:05:32,499 --> 00:05:34,001 Not something you leave behind. 116 00:05:34,084 --> 00:05:36,044 Unless you're making a statement. 117 00:05:46,888 --> 00:05:50,016 Zoe Marsh, her mother, Jacquie, and her father, Brendan, 118 00:05:50,100 --> 00:05:51,685 sat down to celebrate Thanksgiving 119 00:05:51,768 --> 00:05:56,273 with Zoe's boyfriend, US Navy sailor Nate Holbrook. 120 00:05:56,356 --> 00:05:57,608 None of the Marsh family 121 00:05:57,691 --> 00:05:59,693 made it through to the pumpkin pie dessert. 122 00:05:59,776 --> 00:06:02,321 Zoe's boyfriend was found covered in blood, 123 00:06:02,404 --> 00:06:03,572 clutching a shotgun, 124 00:06:03,655 --> 00:06:05,866 with gunpowder residue on his hands. 125 00:06:05,949 --> 00:06:09,995 He had no plausible alibi, yet the case never went to trial. 126 00:06:10,078 --> 00:06:14,082 Five years on and a lot of people are still asking why. 127 00:06:14,165 --> 00:06:15,667 I'm Lucinda Wainwright. 128 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:20,130 Join me as I find answers to what really happened that day. 129 00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:23,133 The real mystery is 130 00:06:23,216 --> 00:06:24,927 why they were celebrating Thanksgiving. 131 00:06:25,010 --> 00:06:26,136 It was Thanksgiving Day. 132 00:06:26,219 --> 00:06:28,847 It's not an Aussie thing, D. You know that, right? 133 00:06:28,930 --> 00:06:30,390 Y'all appropriate Halloween. 134 00:06:30,473 --> 00:06:31,892 You know, why miss out on a chance 135 00:06:31,975 --> 00:06:34,311 to eat turkey and cornbread with your nearest and dearest? 136 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:35,562 Because turkey's a dry bird. 137 00:06:35,645 --> 00:06:36,563 See, now, 138 00:06:36,646 --> 00:06:38,357 you ain't tried my grandma's turkey. 139 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,734 The trick is buttermilk brine. 140 00:06:40,817 --> 00:06:42,027 Three whole days. 141 00:06:42,110 --> 00:06:44,446 Then there's the butter that she slips under the skin. 142 00:06:44,529 --> 00:06:45,364 D... 143 00:06:45,447 --> 00:06:46,949 Bacon grease all over the breast meat. 144 00:06:47,032 --> 00:06:49,576 Then that special basting of her garlic butter every half-hour. 145 00:06:49,659 --> 00:06:51,578 D, come on, you're giving me hunger pains. 146 00:06:51,661 --> 00:06:53,038 Yeah, giving me a coronary. 147 00:06:53,121 --> 00:06:55,457 Does the podcast have a theory as to motive? 148 00:06:55,540 --> 00:06:57,209 The Letters. 149 00:06:57,292 --> 00:06:59,753 Covers Nate's possible motive. 150 00:06:59,836 --> 00:07:01,421 According to the podcast, 151 00:07:01,504 --> 00:07:03,715 Zoe was suspected of cheating on Nate. 152 00:07:03,798 --> 00:07:06,343 He supposedly found letters to her from a mystery lover 153 00:07:06,426 --> 00:07:07,719 and just snapped. 154 00:07:07,802 --> 00:07:08,803 Hmm. 155 00:07:08,887 --> 00:07:09,888 Theory is 156 00:07:09,971 --> 00:07:11,682 Nate then draped the letters 157 00:07:11,765 --> 00:07:14,059 over Zoe's body after he shot her. 158 00:07:14,142 --> 00:07:16,186 -The police charged him, right? -Initially. 159 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:18,521 But the Department of Public Prosecutions 160 00:07:18,605 --> 00:07:19,857 declined to prosecute, 161 00:07:19,940 --> 00:07:23,735 Justice Never Served. 162 00:07:23,818 --> 00:07:25,445 So what happened? Not enough evidence? 163 00:07:25,528 --> 00:07:28,114 See, to answer that, y'all want Episode 7: Cover-Up. 164 00:07:28,198 --> 00:07:30,325 Which is part 1 of 2. It's a banger. 165 00:07:30,408 --> 00:07:31,826 Who did the covering up? 166 00:07:31,910 --> 00:07:35,288 Well, according to this, we did. The US Navy. 167 00:07:35,372 --> 00:07:37,499 The NCIS case at the time 168 00:07:37,582 --> 00:07:39,459 states Nate was granted emergency leave. 169 00:07:39,542 --> 00:07:40,961 Once he returned to the States, 170 00:07:41,044 --> 00:07:42,837 charges were mysteriously dropped. 171 00:07:42,921 --> 00:07:45,340 -I want that file. -Sitting in your inbox. 172 00:07:46,132 --> 00:07:48,260 Hey, Blue, how are we going, uh, fingerprint-wise? 173 00:07:48,343 --> 00:07:51,304 Uh, not very wise. No prints. 174 00:07:51,388 --> 00:07:53,599 But I'm running the DNA from the coffee cup 175 00:07:53,682 --> 00:07:55,350 and cigarettes from the sniper's nest. 176 00:07:55,433 --> 00:07:58,061 Figure we'll check out the gun ranges around town. 177 00:07:58,144 --> 00:08:00,313 Guy was a hotshot. Only comes with practice. 178 00:08:00,397 --> 00:08:01,648 Or natural talent. 179 00:08:01,731 --> 00:08:03,483 Bit of luck, we match the gun and ammo 180 00:08:03,566 --> 00:08:05,956 with the names from the podcast's subscriber list. 181 00:08:14,744 --> 00:08:18,164 Now, um, I believe you have my brother's body. 182 00:08:18,248 --> 00:08:19,791 Appreciate everything you're... you're doing 183 00:08:19,874 --> 00:08:21,668 to catch whoever killed my little brother. 184 00:08:21,751 --> 00:08:23,837 Why did Nate come back after all these years? 185 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,880 Wainwright got in contact. 186 00:08:25,964 --> 00:08:27,841 Sweet-talked Nate into coming to Australia 187 00:08:27,924 --> 00:08:29,051 to tell his side of events. 188 00:08:29,134 --> 00:08:31,344 -Nate went on the podcast? -Yeah. 189 00:08:31,428 --> 00:08:35,640 He recorded a vlog interview yesterday with Lucinda. 190 00:08:37,851 --> 00:08:40,020 The Marshes were like a family to Nate. 191 00:08:40,979 --> 00:08:42,522 Zoe was his sweetheart. 192 00:08:42,605 --> 00:08:43,899 He couldn't stand the thought 193 00:08:43,982 --> 00:08:47,193 that the actual killer was still out there, so... 194 00:08:48,862 --> 00:08:51,948 I mean, I came out to make sure he had someone in his corner. 195 00:08:56,036 --> 00:08:58,789 I had to perform a full autopsy. 196 00:08:58,872 --> 00:09:00,582 I've, uh, sewn him back up, 197 00:09:00,665 --> 00:09:02,208 but you might find... 198 00:09:02,292 --> 00:09:05,003 ...my handiwork a little confronting. 199 00:09:08,506 --> 00:09:11,510 I'd like to say goodbye, if that's all right. 200 00:09:11,593 --> 00:09:13,803 That's fair enough. 201 00:09:30,236 --> 00:09:31,738 Hmm. 202 00:09:33,531 --> 00:09:36,535 He... uh, he worked with his hands, I see. 203 00:09:36,618 --> 00:09:38,870 I'm sorry. 204 00:09:38,953 --> 00:09:41,581 Yeah, um, he was a machinist's mate. 205 00:09:41,664 --> 00:09:43,041 He said pulling engines apart 206 00:09:43,124 --> 00:09:44,751 and putting them back together was... 207 00:09:44,834 --> 00:09:46,961 Well, it was his happy place. 208 00:09:47,045 --> 00:09:48,421 Mm-hm. 209 00:09:49,547 --> 00:09:52,009 God, I'm so sorry, bro. 210 00:09:52,092 --> 00:09:54,177 I let you down. 211 00:10:00,350 --> 00:10:01,685 Listen, son. 212 00:10:01,768 --> 00:10:03,269 You take your time. 213 00:10:04,312 --> 00:10:08,316 I mean, the grief of losing someone close is unimaginable. 214 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:09,692 But... 215 00:10:11,861 --> 00:10:16,282 Losing family, it's... it's on another level entirely. 216 00:10:16,366 --> 00:10:17,992 You speaking from experience? 217 00:10:19,035 --> 00:10:20,870 Hmm. 218 00:10:22,205 --> 00:10:26,459 Just one thing that's been bugging me. 219 00:10:26,543 --> 00:10:28,962 Your brother, did he own a toy koala? 220 00:10:29,045 --> 00:10:31,256 Clarence. 221 00:10:31,339 --> 00:10:32,632 -Oh? -Yeah, we, uh... 222 00:10:32,715 --> 00:10:34,634 I bought him for... 223 00:10:34,717 --> 00:10:37,137 ...for, uh, our niece. 224 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:40,140 We made sure Clarence photo bombed all of our pictures. 225 00:10:42,976 --> 00:10:46,229 We were actually gonna go hiking in the Blue Mountains today. 226 00:10:47,230 --> 00:10:48,731 I'm sorry. 227 00:10:50,775 --> 00:10:52,569 I'm sorry for your loss. 228 00:11:03,371 --> 00:11:05,082 I pulled the cold case files. 229 00:11:05,165 --> 00:11:07,626 Maybe shed some light on whether Nate really killed that family. 230 00:11:07,709 --> 00:11:09,127 It's kind of beside the point. 231 00:11:09,210 --> 00:11:10,295 All that really matters 232 00:11:10,378 --> 00:11:11,922 is whether or not our killer believed he did. 233 00:11:13,173 --> 00:11:15,967 Hi. Come on through. 234 00:11:19,095 --> 00:11:21,514 Oh, my ex enjoyed The Chancery Lane Killings. 235 00:11:21,598 --> 00:11:24,851 Used to listen to it on long road trips down the coast. 236 00:11:24,934 --> 00:11:26,686 Killer went down for it in the end, 237 00:11:26,769 --> 00:11:28,855 thanks to your investigation, if I remember. 238 00:11:28,938 --> 00:11:30,899 I like to think I played a small part 239 00:11:30,982 --> 00:11:31,942 in reopening the case. 240 00:11:32,025 --> 00:11:34,861 What about you, Agent Mackey? 241 00:11:34,944 --> 00:11:37,781 I liked Serial. That one of yours? 242 00:11:37,864 --> 00:11:38,824 No. 243 00:11:38,907 --> 00:11:40,116 Hm. 244 00:11:42,577 --> 00:11:44,663 Maybe we should talk about Nate Holbrook's murder. 245 00:11:44,746 --> 00:11:47,833 Yeah, that was horrible. The poor brother. 246 00:11:47,916 --> 00:11:50,293 Do you have any leads yet? 247 00:11:50,376 --> 00:11:52,545 Ah, running a few angles. 248 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:54,756 Internet vigilantism is one of them. 249 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:56,883 Really? As in one of my listeners? 250 00:11:56,966 --> 00:12:00,553 presence at our crime scene. 251 00:12:00,637 --> 00:12:02,680 Well, word travels fast. People care. 252 00:12:03,681 --> 00:12:06,101 People who'd be willing to take matters into their own hands? 253 00:12:06,184 --> 00:12:10,396 I mean, I have over a million subscribers. How would I know? 254 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,731 You got a chat room? 255 00:12:11,814 --> 00:12:14,776 Anyone use violent language directed at Nate? 256 00:12:14,859 --> 00:12:15,777 Some. 257 00:12:15,860 --> 00:12:16,862 But would any of them 258 00:12:16,945 --> 00:12:18,321 take their frustration beyond the keyboard? 259 00:12:18,404 --> 00:12:20,073 I really couldn't say. 260 00:12:20,823 --> 00:12:23,994 -You interviewed Nate yesterday. -He reached out. 261 00:12:24,077 --> 00:12:26,579 We heard it was the other way around. 262 00:12:26,663 --> 00:12:28,415 No, he was desperate to clear his name. 263 00:12:28,498 --> 00:12:30,416 I just gave him the opportunity. 264 00:12:31,376 --> 00:12:33,170 I'm gonna need a copy of that recording. 265 00:12:33,253 --> 00:12:34,754 Sure. 266 00:12:34,837 --> 00:12:36,923 You know, if Nate's killer is 267 00:12:37,006 --> 00:12:39,217 some sort of internet vigilante, 268 00:12:39,300 --> 00:12:42,262 chances are they listen to my podcast, right? 269 00:12:43,388 --> 00:12:44,264 So? 270 00:12:44,347 --> 00:12:46,140 So you should come on my show 271 00:12:46,224 --> 00:12:48,226 and talk to them direct. 272 00:12:48,309 --> 00:12:49,769 You know, maybe that's not such a crazy idea... 273 00:12:49,852 --> 00:12:52,063 -That is a crazy idea. -Oh, go on. 274 00:12:52,146 --> 00:12:54,399 We could go live. 275 00:12:54,482 --> 00:12:57,110 You can engage with my listeners directly. 276 00:12:57,193 --> 00:12:58,444 And who knows? 277 00:12:59,362 --> 00:13:01,614 You might even catch a break. 278 00:13:09,580 --> 00:13:11,249 Thanks for your time. 279 00:13:22,677 --> 00:13:25,013 -Can I help you? -Luka Litchfield? 280 00:13:25,096 --> 00:13:26,598 Yep, that's me. 281 00:13:26,681 --> 00:13:28,433 Special Agent Jackson, NCIS. 282 00:13:28,516 --> 00:13:31,728 Constable Evie Cooper, AFP. We called ahead. 283 00:13:32,729 --> 00:13:34,147 Thought you said lunchtime. 284 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:35,982 We've been to every gun range in Sydney. 285 00:13:36,065 --> 00:13:37,275 You're lucky last. 286 00:13:37,358 --> 00:13:40,111 Oh, remind me to buy a lottery ticket. 287 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:42,239 We're gonna need a list 288 00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:43,448 of all your target shooters 289 00:13:43,531 --> 00:13:45,325 and their registered firearms with your club. 290 00:13:45,408 --> 00:13:46,952 Specifically high-caliber rifles 291 00:13:47,035 --> 00:13:49,996 firing .308 full metal jacket rounds. 292 00:13:51,497 --> 00:13:53,499 Oh, we've got a new fandangled system, 293 00:13:53,583 --> 00:13:54,709 so it'll take me a beat. 294 00:13:54,792 --> 00:13:56,085 Oh, we can wait. 295 00:14:00,131 --> 00:14:01,258 Ooh! 296 00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:03,509 -While we do... -Really? 297 00:14:03,593 --> 00:14:06,387 You seriously wanna get shown up, soldier boy? 298 00:14:06,471 --> 00:14:07,806 Hope you brought your textbook, 299 00:14:07,889 --> 00:14:09,224 'cause I'm taking you to school. 300 00:14:09,307 --> 00:14:11,768 Oh. 301 00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:19,233 Whoo-hoo-hoo! 302 00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:23,696 Four center circle, two outside. 303 00:14:23,780 --> 00:14:26,032 Three center circle. 304 00:14:26,115 --> 00:14:28,368 That one is outside the line, D. 305 00:14:28,451 --> 00:14:29,661 On the line. 306 00:14:29,744 --> 00:14:32,663 NRL rules, baby. On the line is out. 307 00:14:42,924 --> 00:14:45,551 -Three center circle. -Three outside. 308 00:14:46,469 --> 00:14:48,096 We tied again. 309 00:14:49,013 --> 00:14:51,391 Go again? Next one wins? 310 00:14:51,474 --> 00:14:53,226 Oi, you two. 311 00:14:53,309 --> 00:14:55,729 Sorry, I got into the register, but it's telling me 312 00:14:55,812 --> 00:14:58,231 the printer's not connected or something. 313 00:14:58,314 --> 00:14:59,858 Oh, yeah, yeah, email's fine. 314 00:14:59,941 --> 00:15:02,652 We're under the gun, so to speak. 315 00:15:08,449 --> 00:15:10,994 I don't know what the hell happened that day. 316 00:15:11,077 --> 00:15:12,286 You know, I wish I did. 317 00:15:12,370 --> 00:15:14,414 And where were you at the time of the murders? 318 00:15:14,497 --> 00:15:16,082 Well, party was going well. 319 00:15:16,165 --> 00:15:18,251 You know, we were having a good time. 320 00:15:18,334 --> 00:15:20,920 Um, I went out to get some beer. 321 00:15:21,003 --> 00:15:24,090 When I got back, Zoe... 322 00:15:25,383 --> 00:15:26,884 Her entire family... 323 00:15:28,845 --> 00:15:30,513 There was a lot of blood. 324 00:15:30,596 --> 00:15:32,306 I got it all over me. 325 00:15:32,390 --> 00:15:34,934 You were clocked leaving the liquor store at 2:25, 326 00:15:35,017 --> 00:15:37,186 but you didn't call the police until 3:30. 327 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:38,730 -What happened in the interim? -Yeah. 328 00:15:38,813 --> 00:15:40,273 I got a flat tire on the way home. 329 00:15:40,356 --> 00:15:43,276 I had no jack in the back of my pickup, 330 00:15:43,359 --> 00:15:44,986 so I had to use what I had. 331 00:15:45,069 --> 00:15:46,654 I've been over this. 332 00:15:46,737 --> 00:15:49,282 Seriously? The old flat-tire alibi? 333 00:15:49,365 --> 00:15:51,284 What does he think this is, Murder, She Wrote? 334 00:15:51,367 --> 00:15:52,786 -Is anyone buying this? -What, the alibi? 335 00:15:52,869 --> 00:15:55,455 Or the fact that you name- checked a 40-year-old TV show? 336 00:15:55,538 --> 00:15:57,498 -Come on. -You're on the news, boss. 337 00:15:57,582 --> 00:15:59,709 Or should I say, you are the news. 338 00:15:59,792 --> 00:16:02,879 In the latest installment of the Marsh Family Murders, 339 00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:04,881 the net widens as NCIS 340 00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:06,799 investigate Nate Holbrook's murder. 341 00:16:06,883 --> 00:16:08,676 Will they unveil the truth 342 00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:11,137 or will the cover-up continue? 343 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:15,850 -We should go on her show. -She's baiting us. 344 00:16:15,933 --> 00:16:18,144 That's been up there, what, half an hour. 345 00:16:18,227 --> 00:16:20,438 -Have a go at all the likes. -I'm not doing it. 346 00:16:20,521 --> 00:16:23,649 Come on, she's offering us a chance to connect directly 347 00:16:23,733 --> 00:16:25,193 with millions of listeners 348 00:16:25,276 --> 00:16:26,653 who might be able to help us with the case. 349 00:16:26,736 --> 00:16:30,448 It is a podcast, JD, and we're cops. At least I am. 350 00:16:30,531 --> 00:16:33,075 Chances are Nate's killer's gonna tune in. 351 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:36,662 And when they do, I want us to be there. 352 00:16:45,630 --> 00:16:48,132 For the record, this is one of your stupider ideas. 353 00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:49,592 You really don't like her, do you? 354 00:16:49,675 --> 00:16:50,802 I have no opinion either way. 355 00:16:50,885 --> 00:16:52,846 Is it 'cause of her success in solving crime? 356 00:16:52,929 --> 00:16:53,930 Let's be clear. 357 00:16:54,013 --> 00:16:56,724 She sells advertising space, I solve crime. 358 00:16:58,226 --> 00:17:01,187 Hey, just remember, when you speak, to modulate your voice. 359 00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:02,981 You don't want the listeners falling asleep 360 00:17:03,064 --> 00:17:04,399 'cause you're all Monotone Mackey. 361 00:17:04,482 --> 00:17:07,026 Okay, Wolfman Jack, just worry about yourself. 362 00:17:08,861 --> 00:17:10,238 Today we are lucky enough 363 00:17:10,321 --> 00:17:13,575 to be joined by NCIS Special Agent Michelle Mackey 364 00:17:13,658 --> 00:17:16,661 and her AFP counterpart, Sergeant Jim Dempsey. 365 00:17:16,744 --> 00:17:19,914 I am so excited to have you both on the show. 366 00:17:19,997 --> 00:17:22,750 Our first transcontinental crime-fighting duo. 367 00:17:22,833 --> 00:17:25,044 -Pleasure to be here. -Thanks for the invite. 368 00:17:25,127 --> 00:17:26,587 Can I start by asking 369 00:17:26,671 --> 00:17:29,298 why you both came on the show in the first place? 370 00:17:30,758 --> 00:17:32,510 Hi there, folks. 371 00:17:34,887 --> 00:17:36,764 It's simple, really. 372 00:17:36,847 --> 00:17:38,891 We're investigating Nate Holbrook's murder 373 00:17:38,975 --> 00:17:41,394 and wondering if anyone has seen anything, 374 00:17:41,477 --> 00:17:44,606 heard anything, that might relate to what happened. 375 00:17:44,689 --> 00:17:46,399 Right on, Macka. 376 00:17:46,482 --> 00:17:50,153 So, over to you good people at home. 377 00:17:50,236 --> 00:17:51,571 If you have any information 378 00:17:51,654 --> 00:17:54,199 that could point us in the direction of Nate's shooter, 379 00:17:54,282 --> 00:17:57,494 be sure to call or text the number on the screen. 380 00:17:57,577 --> 00:17:59,370 You heard Sergeant Dempsey. 381 00:17:59,453 --> 00:18:00,872 We are now open for questions. 382 00:18:00,955 --> 00:18:03,833 383 00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:05,042 Next one. 384 00:18:05,126 --> 00:18:06,377 Stirling Merrifield. 385 00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:11,465 -Evie. Stirling Merrifield. -Shh! 386 00:18:13,175 --> 00:18:15,011 While we wait for the calls to come through, 387 00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:16,262 perhaps you can tell us about 388 00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:19,056 the US-Australian Law Enforcement Partnership. 389 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:21,684 How's that going for you, Agent Mackey? 390 00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:22,893 It's terrific. 391 00:18:22,977 --> 00:18:24,437 Believe it or not, we're a great 392 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,730 cultural fit. 393 00:18:25,813 --> 00:18:27,064 There... 394 00:18:32,987 --> 00:18:34,322 There were some... 395 00:18:34,405 --> 00:18:36,741 There were some natural teething issues 396 00:18:36,824 --> 00:18:37,742 at first. 397 00:18:37,825 --> 00:18:40,286 Uh, I think they thought we'd last, 398 00:18:40,369 --> 00:18:41,912 you know, like, two weeks. 399 00:18:41,996 --> 00:18:44,499 But here we are, still doing our thing. 400 00:18:44,582 --> 00:18:46,959 -Yeah. -Uh... 401 00:18:47,043 --> 00:18:48,502 Doing our thang. 402 00:18:50,838 --> 00:18:53,924 Did I say what a tremendous opportunity 403 00:18:54,008 --> 00:18:55,176 it is to be on the show? 404 00:18:55,259 --> 00:18:58,680 Mm, I think what Agent Mackey is trying to say is 405 00:18:58,763 --> 00:19:00,890 how much she enjoys working with the Australian law enforcement. 406 00:19:00,973 --> 00:19:02,808 I'm so glad to hear that. 407 00:19:02,892 --> 00:19:05,853 Can I start with a question for you, Agent Mackey? 408 00:19:05,936 --> 00:19:06,896 Shoot. 409 00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:08,231 Let's talk about Nate Holbrook 410 00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:10,274 and the multiple homicide charges 411 00:19:10,358 --> 00:19:11,609 that have been leveled against him. 412 00:19:11,692 --> 00:19:13,277 As you know, Lucinda, 413 00:19:13,361 --> 00:19:15,863 the public prosecutor declined to take the case 414 00:19:15,946 --> 00:19:17,657 and dropped all charges. 415 00:19:17,740 --> 00:19:20,117 That's technically true, but they had to 416 00:19:20,201 --> 00:19:21,952 because Nate skipped the country. 417 00:19:22,036 --> 00:19:24,914 According to the affidavit, he had a health emergency. 418 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:27,250 Nate needed treatment back in the States. 419 00:19:27,333 --> 00:19:29,294 A health emergency that kicked in a day before 420 00:19:29,377 --> 00:19:31,816 the case was supposed to go to a committal hearing? 421 00:19:34,215 --> 00:19:36,008 Uh, bad timing, for sure. 422 00:19:36,092 --> 00:19:37,594 Police files and evidence boxes 423 00:19:37,677 --> 00:19:40,846 from the original case that JD requested, with more to come. 424 00:19:40,930 --> 00:19:42,724 Is there anything from your listeners? 425 00:19:42,807 --> 00:19:44,392 Nothing yet, but that happens. 426 00:19:44,475 --> 00:19:45,643 No one wants to go first. 427 00:19:45,726 --> 00:19:47,895 Just takes one person to get the ball rolling. 428 00:19:47,978 --> 00:19:51,315 All right, come on, folks. We need your help. 429 00:19:51,399 --> 00:19:53,526 Doesn't matter how irrelevant you think it might be. 430 00:19:53,609 --> 00:19:54,736 Any piece of information 431 00:19:54,819 --> 00:19:57,071 could be the lead that helps break our case. 432 00:19:57,154 --> 00:19:58,489 Wow. 433 00:19:58,572 --> 00:20:00,658 They are dying out there. 434 00:20:00,741 --> 00:20:03,744 You should help them out. Throw 'em a bone. 435 00:20:03,828 --> 00:20:06,038 God, no. This is amazing. 436 00:20:06,122 --> 00:20:08,124 Shove over. 437 00:20:11,585 --> 00:20:13,921 Really? That's your bone? 438 00:20:14,922 --> 00:20:18,175 Okay, we do have one question from Nicky Rimz. 439 00:20:18,259 --> 00:20:20,010 Have you ever used your handcuffs 440 00:20:20,094 --> 00:20:23,013 or any other form of restraints on each other? 441 00:20:26,434 --> 00:20:29,353 Oh, man, damn! Is that the best you got? 442 00:20:29,437 --> 00:20:31,939 I'm just trying to get the conversation started. 443 00:20:32,022 --> 00:20:35,025 That is a negative, Nicky. 444 00:20:35,109 --> 00:20:38,946 Okay. Uh, and another one from Hugh Jarse. 445 00:20:41,198 --> 00:20:42,700 Do you practice patting each other down? 446 00:20:42,783 --> 00:20:45,286 All right, okay, folks. Let's stay on track. 447 00:20:45,369 --> 00:20:47,413 We need your help to catch a killer. 448 00:20:47,496 --> 00:20:49,540 Out of all the people you've traded words with 449 00:20:49,623 --> 00:20:50,875 in the podcast chat room, 450 00:20:50,958 --> 00:20:53,085 who would be your go-to person of interest 451 00:20:53,169 --> 00:20:54,295 you'd want to speak to? 452 00:20:54,378 --> 00:20:57,006 We do have one name being offered up 453 00:20:57,089 --> 00:20:59,258 by some of the listeners. 454 00:20:59,341 --> 00:21:01,969 Freddy Rasmussen. Does that mean anything to you? 455 00:21:02,052 --> 00:21:03,888 Not yet. 456 00:21:03,971 --> 00:21:05,723 Pulling up his chat log now. 457 00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:08,184 Whoa. 458 00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:09,519 "Only justice for Zoe" 459 00:21:09,602 --> 00:21:13,272 "comes in the form of 180-grain full metal jacket." 460 00:21:13,355 --> 00:21:14,482 Gun club records show 461 00:21:14,565 --> 00:21:17,151 that Rasmussen owns a Winchester .308. 462 00:21:28,704 --> 00:21:30,289 Freddy Rasmussen. 463 00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:31,582 Sergeant Dempsey, AFP. 464 00:21:31,665 --> 00:21:33,710 I'd like to ask you a few questions. 465 00:21:33,793 --> 00:21:36,629 Special Agent Mackey, NCIS. 466 00:21:36,712 --> 00:21:39,507 We've already met, haven't we, Freddy? 467 00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:40,925 In Chinatown. 468 00:21:41,008 --> 00:21:42,343 You got a warrant? 469 00:21:42,426 --> 00:21:44,303 Are we gonna need one? 470 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:49,475 Where were you yesterday 471 00:21:49,558 --> 00:21:50,768 between 8:00 and 10:00pm? 472 00:21:50,851 --> 00:21:51,811 I was out. 473 00:21:51,894 --> 00:21:54,063 Out where? Doing what? 474 00:21:54,146 --> 00:21:56,106 Keeping vigil for Zoe. 475 00:21:56,190 --> 00:21:59,527 "Keeping vigil"? What does that mean? 476 00:21:59,610 --> 00:22:01,195 I stood outside a hotel 477 00:22:01,278 --> 00:22:03,448 waiting for that coward Nate Holbrook to show. 478 00:22:03,531 --> 00:22:05,658 I wanted to give him a piece of my mind. 479 00:22:05,741 --> 00:22:07,117 And did you? 480 00:22:07,201 --> 00:22:10,037 Holbrook saw me, ran out the back way. 481 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:11,956 Old habits die hard. 482 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:13,624 You own a Winchester .308? 483 00:22:13,707 --> 00:22:15,251 You know I do. It's why you're here. 484 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:17,754 -Where do you keep it? -The gun club, usually. 485 00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:19,547 Usually? 486 00:22:19,630 --> 00:22:20,715 It's in my car. 487 00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:22,800 Going away for the weekend. 488 00:22:45,030 --> 00:22:46,782 Fired it recently? 489 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:49,535 Not that I can recall. 490 00:22:54,331 --> 00:22:57,334 Rasmussen's wife, Helen, was murdered three years ago. 491 00:22:57,418 --> 00:22:59,420 That's what the shrine in his house was about. 492 00:22:59,503 --> 00:23:02,632 Killer took his own life before the case could go to trial. 493 00:23:02,715 --> 00:23:05,134 So he never got justice for his wife's murder? 494 00:23:06,010 --> 00:23:07,553 Maybe he can for Zoe? 495 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:12,766 Sorry about your wife, mate. 496 00:23:13,809 --> 00:23:15,227 Helen, isn't it? 497 00:23:17,438 --> 00:23:19,064 You got people around you? 498 00:23:20,691 --> 00:23:22,860 I joined the Victims of Crime support group. 499 00:23:22,943 --> 00:23:24,528 They have regular meet-ups. 500 00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:26,530 Does it help? 501 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,161 A guy there suggested I find a hobby. 502 00:23:32,244 --> 00:23:34,204 It's how I came to target shooting. 503 00:23:35,205 --> 00:23:36,916 Helped fill the days. 504 00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:41,795 It's the nights that are, uh, the hardest, though, right? 505 00:23:42,838 --> 00:23:44,131 The midnight to dawn. 506 00:23:44,214 --> 00:23:47,009 Everyone wants you to leave the past in the past. 507 00:23:48,093 --> 00:23:49,470 How are you supposed to do that 508 00:23:49,553 --> 00:23:51,389 when you lose the reason you have for living? 509 00:23:51,472 --> 00:23:53,850 Did you kill Nate Holbrook? 510 00:23:53,933 --> 00:23:55,059 Yep. 511 00:23:58,771 --> 00:24:00,230 Every night in my head. 512 00:24:00,314 --> 00:24:02,566 How about last night in Chinatown? 513 00:24:07,196 --> 00:24:10,240 I haven't got it in me to take someone's life. 514 00:24:12,159 --> 00:24:13,577 Really? 515 00:24:15,412 --> 00:24:17,247 "Only justice for Zoe" 516 00:24:17,331 --> 00:24:20,793 "comes in the form of a 180-grain full metal jacket." 517 00:24:20,876 --> 00:24:22,169 Meant to mean something? 518 00:24:22,252 --> 00:24:25,589 Well, you tell me. I'm quoting you. 519 00:24:30,344 --> 00:24:33,472 Yeah, sometimes I... I lose myself in those chat rooms. 520 00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:36,767 Stuff comes bubbling up. I didn't mean anything by it. 521 00:24:40,145 --> 00:24:42,481 "You know it's gonna make it that much better" 522 00:24:42,564 --> 00:24:45,859 "when we can say goodnight and stay together." 523 00:24:45,943 --> 00:24:48,445 Seriously? I mean, who writes this stuff? 524 00:24:48,529 --> 00:24:50,823 -It's poetry. It's beautiful. -It's Beach Boys. 525 00:24:50,906 --> 00:24:53,283 Yeah, I guess Zoe loved the classics. 526 00:24:55,703 --> 00:24:57,037 Wait. 527 00:24:59,415 --> 00:25:01,625 I thought you said black opal is rare. 528 00:25:01,709 --> 00:25:02,960 It is. 529 00:25:03,043 --> 00:25:04,211 What do you got, D? 530 00:25:04,294 --> 00:25:06,088 It looks like the same type of black opal 531 00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:07,840 links both crime scenes, boss. 532 00:25:07,923 --> 00:25:09,842 So is there a chance that whoever killed Nate 533 00:25:09,925 --> 00:25:11,218 was there the day Zoe died? 534 00:25:11,301 --> 00:25:14,430 If so, Nate's not the murderer. 535 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:17,307 He's just another innocent victim. 536 00:25:18,142 --> 00:25:20,894 It all goes back to the Thanksgiving lunch. 537 00:25:44,668 --> 00:25:46,754 I want everything as it was back in the day. 538 00:25:46,837 --> 00:25:48,756 Use your crime scene photos as your guide. 539 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:50,716 You seriously think here's where we get answers? 540 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,010 That, or dysentery. 541 00:26:14,865 --> 00:26:16,951 All right now, big one. Big smiles. 542 00:26:17,034 --> 00:26:19,036 -Happy Thanksgiving. -Happy Thanksgiving! 543 00:26:42,476 --> 00:26:45,187 That's great, yeah! 544 00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:47,564 Oh, sweet! 545 00:27:47,207 --> 00:27:50,127 Wow. Who needs roadside service, eh? 546 00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:52,337 Just testing out Nate's alibi. 547 00:27:52,421 --> 00:27:55,340 Turns out it is possible to change a tire without a jack 548 00:27:55,424 --> 00:27:58,260 and only a tire iron and chainsaw for company. 549 00:27:58,343 --> 00:27:59,970 Huh. 550 00:28:00,053 --> 00:28:01,222 So what's the beer for, then? 551 00:28:01,305 --> 00:28:02,598 Well, Nate was off buying beers, 552 00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:04,391 so I'm just trying to keep it real. 553 00:28:04,474 --> 00:28:05,475 Oh. 554 00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,603 And for knockoff. 555 00:28:09,271 --> 00:28:11,148 Yikes! Your hands. 556 00:28:11,231 --> 00:28:13,609 Ah, it's just brake pad dust from the wheels. 557 00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:16,570 Don't worry, Mum. I'm going to wash my hands... 558 00:28:16,653 --> 00:28:19,365 No, no, no, no. Don't do that. Don't do that, whatever you do. 559 00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:21,325 Not until I am done with you. 560 00:28:26,246 --> 00:28:28,248 So the father was shot here, right? 561 00:28:28,332 --> 00:28:29,374 Mm-hm. 562 00:28:29,458 --> 00:28:30,918 Where does that put the shooter? 563 00:28:31,001 --> 00:28:32,962 Well, here, I guess. 564 00:28:33,045 --> 00:28:36,298 Oh, well, that's what the police report suggests. 565 00:28:36,381 --> 00:28:38,508 But as per the coroner's report, 566 00:28:38,592 --> 00:28:40,219 which came out afterwards, 567 00:28:40,302 --> 00:28:42,596 the blast struck Brandon's carotid artery, 568 00:28:42,679 --> 00:28:45,141 meaning a lot of blood would have sprayed forward. 569 00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:49,436 So if Nate was the shooter, blood would have sprayed on him. 570 00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:51,021 Leaving a blood silhouette behind him. 571 00:28:51,104 --> 00:28:52,731 But there isn't one on that photo 572 00:28:52,814 --> 00:28:55,692 because Nate didn't kill Brandon. 573 00:28:58,737 --> 00:28:59,655 Okay, so who did? 574 00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:01,698 Well, based on what we're seeing here, 575 00:29:01,782 --> 00:29:03,325 I'd say 576 00:29:03,408 --> 00:29:05,327 Brandon killed Brandon. 577 00:29:06,245 --> 00:29:07,997 -What, murder-suicide? Why? -Hm. 578 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,748 'Cause Zoe wasn't the one having the affair. 579 00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:12,334 I went back and managed to access her public playlist. 580 00:29:12,417 --> 00:29:14,878 Travis Scott, Nicki Minaj, J. Cole. 581 00:29:14,962 --> 00:29:16,630 She had a poster of Hilltop Hoods on her wall. 582 00:29:16,713 --> 00:29:19,550 But the love letters are full of Beach Boys lyrics. Old school. 583 00:29:19,633 --> 00:29:21,927 See, that ain't the way to a hip-hop girl's heart. 584 00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:23,595 Hm. These weren't Zoe's. 585 00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:24,930 We think they were her mum's. 586 00:29:25,013 --> 00:29:27,683 You're telling me Jacquie was having the affair? 587 00:29:29,643 --> 00:29:30,978 How did the cops miss this? 588 00:29:31,061 --> 00:29:32,479 Well, you think about it. 589 00:29:32,562 --> 00:29:33,647 You come through the door, 590 00:29:33,730 --> 00:29:35,816 you find Nate holding the murder weapon 591 00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:38,777 covered in the victim's blood, gunpowder residue all over him. 592 00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:40,321 With a "cat ate my homework" alibi. 593 00:29:40,404 --> 00:29:42,948 Someone didn't do the work. Went for the low-hanging fruit. 594 00:29:43,031 --> 00:29:44,450 Jumped to the conclusion that if it flaps 595 00:29:44,533 --> 00:29:45,784 like a duck and quacks like a duck... 596 00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:46,952 The wrong person goes to prison. 597 00:29:47,035 --> 00:29:49,329 And years later, has podcasts made about them. 598 00:29:49,413 --> 00:29:50,914 Pff! 599 00:29:50,998 --> 00:29:52,916 Okay, great job, team. 600 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,044 Let's not slap ourselves on the back too hard yet. 601 00:29:55,127 --> 00:29:56,753 We may have solved the cold case, 602 00:29:56,837 --> 00:30:00,424 but we aren't any closer to working out who killed Nate. 603 00:30:05,887 --> 00:30:07,473 Come on, kiddo, don't do this. 604 00:30:07,556 --> 00:30:08,766 We just solved the cold case. 605 00:30:08,849 --> 00:30:10,351 -DNA doesn't lie. -Exactly. 606 00:30:10,434 --> 00:30:11,936 So Dad killed his wife and daughter 607 00:30:12,019 --> 00:30:13,437 and then turned the gun on himself. 608 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,438 I mean, it totally tracks. 609 00:30:14,521 --> 00:30:16,523 Except in this case, he couldn't have. 610 00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:17,607 Why not, exactly? 611 00:30:17,691 --> 00:30:18,817 Because I ran DNA analysis 612 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:19,985 on the historic victims 613 00:30:20,068 --> 00:30:20,944 and it turns out 614 00:30:21,028 --> 00:30:23,447 that Brandon and Zoe's DNA don't match. 615 00:30:25,449 --> 00:30:26,325 What... 616 00:30:26,408 --> 00:30:27,534 Call me old-fashioned, 617 00:30:27,617 --> 00:30:29,161 but shouldn't a father and daughter's DNA match 618 00:30:29,244 --> 00:30:30,454 on some level? 619 00:30:30,537 --> 00:30:33,582 Yes, absolutely, if they are in fact father and daughter. 620 00:30:33,665 --> 00:30:37,044 Wait, Brandon wasn't Zoe's biological dad? 621 00:30:37,127 --> 00:30:39,254 Nope, not according to the laws of science. 622 00:30:39,338 --> 00:30:41,256 So who is Zoe's biological father? 623 00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:43,050 That is what I've been trying to tell you. 624 00:30:43,133 --> 00:30:46,928 So Zoe's DNA is a match for the DNA on the coffee cup 625 00:30:47,012 --> 00:30:49,682 and the cigarette butts found at the scene of Nate's shooting. 626 00:30:49,765 --> 00:30:51,725 -Where we found the opal? -Yes. 627 00:30:51,808 --> 00:30:54,811 -So whoever shot Nate... -is Zoe's biological father. 628 00:30:58,190 --> 00:31:00,025 What are we missing? 629 00:31:00,901 --> 00:31:01,985 Thanksgiving dinner. 630 00:31:02,069 --> 00:31:03,445 Everyone's a few drinks in. 631 00:31:03,528 --> 00:31:06,823 Brandon somehow stumbles onto Jacquie's love letters... 632 00:31:06,907 --> 00:31:08,575 Proving his wife had had an affair. 633 00:31:08,658 --> 00:31:10,244 Confirming his suspicions 634 00:31:10,327 --> 00:31:13,288 that the daughter he'd raised as his own wasn't actually his. 635 00:31:13,372 --> 00:31:15,165 So he snaps hard. 636 00:31:15,248 --> 00:31:16,625 He shoots Zoe in front of Mum, 637 00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:20,670 placing the love letters over Zoe's body to humiliate Jacquie, 638 00:31:20,754 --> 00:31:22,672 just like she humiliated him. 639 00:31:22,756 --> 00:31:23,965 The love letters I get, 640 00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:26,510 but why place Mom's opal necklace over Zoe? 641 00:31:26,593 --> 00:31:28,887 And why are there black opals at both of the crime scenes? 642 00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:32,015 Yo, got confirmation from Customs and Immigration 643 00:31:32,099 --> 00:31:34,184 regarding Nate's exit from the country after the murders. 644 00:31:34,267 --> 00:31:35,352 -And? -And he didn't hop 645 00:31:35,435 --> 00:31:36,979 a commercial flight back to L.A. 646 00:31:37,062 --> 00:31:38,313 How'd he get back, then? 647 00:31:38,397 --> 00:31:39,356 Turns out his brother, Tyler, 648 00:31:39,439 --> 00:31:41,233 was in the Navy back in the day too. 649 00:31:41,316 --> 00:31:42,526 And that's important because... 650 00:31:42,609 --> 00:31:43,527 Because his brother 651 00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:45,487 was in Navy transport logistics. 652 00:31:48,281 --> 00:31:50,784 Yeah, I admit it. I called in some favors. 653 00:31:50,867 --> 00:31:52,661 So your brother wouldn't face charges? 654 00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:53,996 Charges he was innocent of. 655 00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:57,124 -And you knew that how? -Because he's my little brother. 656 00:31:57,207 --> 00:31:58,875 And I asked him straight up, 657 00:31:58,959 --> 00:32:00,627 I told him I'd stand by him either way, 658 00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:02,212 but if I found out down the track 659 00:32:02,295 --> 00:32:04,297 he was lying to me, then I'd kick his ass. 660 00:32:08,844 --> 00:32:11,430 I've been looking after Nate since he was in diapers, right? 661 00:32:11,513 --> 00:32:14,293 You think I don't know when my baby brother's lying to me? 662 00:32:16,226 --> 00:32:18,312 I made a promise to my dad on his deathbed 663 00:32:18,395 --> 00:32:20,105 I would look after Nate, all right? 664 00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:21,314 So that's what I did. 665 00:32:22,107 --> 00:32:24,610 And you figured that meant getting him out of Australia 666 00:32:24,693 --> 00:32:26,361 to avoid police charges? 667 00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:31,366 Okay, if I could have my time over, I... I... 668 00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:33,452 ...I would let it go to trial, 669 00:32:33,535 --> 00:32:35,745 and his alibi would have come to light, 670 00:32:35,829 --> 00:32:37,873 there would have been no podcast, 671 00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:42,377 and Nate might still be alive. 672 00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:45,881 But... 673 00:32:51,887 --> 00:32:53,722 So looking into Zoe's biological dad means 674 00:32:53,805 --> 00:32:55,516 I gotta go back 26 years, 675 00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:57,851 figure out what Mum was doing way back when. 676 00:32:57,934 --> 00:33:01,146 Turns out she was a regional flight attendant. 677 00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:04,566 And one of her regular routes 678 00:33:04,649 --> 00:33:05,734 was to Lightning Ridge, 679 00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:08,278 which happens to be Australia's opal capital, 680 00:33:08,361 --> 00:33:09,946 famous for black opal. 681 00:33:10,030 --> 00:33:11,949 And who said you don't do the daily groundwork? 682 00:33:12,032 --> 00:33:15,702 You, mostly, while I'm making you look good. 683 00:33:16,536 --> 00:33:18,038 What have you got? 684 00:33:18,121 --> 00:33:19,706 Passenger manifests from every one 685 00:33:19,789 --> 00:33:21,458 of Jacquie's flights back in the day. 686 00:33:21,541 --> 00:33:23,252 I'm trying to work out which were opal miners 687 00:33:23,335 --> 00:33:26,880 and linking them to any big finds of black opal. 688 00:33:27,714 --> 00:33:29,007 If Jacquie had an affair, 689 00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:31,343 it was likely with one of those miners. 690 00:33:31,426 --> 00:33:34,763 Sure. Or... 691 00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:37,334 ...we could just ask the jeweler who set both opals. 692 00:33:40,644 --> 00:33:44,022 I remember this stone. One of two for the same client. 693 00:33:44,105 --> 00:33:45,023 Two stones? 694 00:33:45,106 --> 00:33:47,359 The first one, 20-some years ago, 695 00:33:47,442 --> 00:33:49,236 the second one, maybe five years back. 696 00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:51,613 Mm. You still got the client's details? 697 00:33:51,696 --> 00:33:53,240 Oh, I should do. 698 00:33:54,533 --> 00:33:57,327 So let's assume the first opal is a gift for Jacquie. 699 00:33:57,410 --> 00:33:59,037 And the second one's for Zoe. 700 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,540 Maybe. But why the delay? 701 00:34:01,623 --> 00:34:02,708 Dunno. 702 00:34:02,791 --> 00:34:04,585 Maybe he just found out he was a dad. 703 00:34:04,668 --> 00:34:07,692 Got the second opal set for the daughter he didn't know he had. 704 00:34:08,088 --> 00:34:10,465 I found the original invoices. 705 00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:21,226 Damn. Didn't see that coming. 706 00:34:23,603 --> 00:34:24,688 What have you got, Blue? 707 00:34:24,771 --> 00:34:27,774 -Worms? -Nope, better. Excitement. 708 00:34:27,857 --> 00:34:29,860 Ballistics came through the lab on Rasmussen's rifle 709 00:34:29,943 --> 00:34:30,944 with a positive match. 710 00:34:31,027 --> 00:34:32,153 We certain about that? 711 00:34:32,237 --> 00:34:33,363 According to Team Bang-Bang, 712 00:34:33,446 --> 00:34:35,657 the firing pin indent and extractor claw marks 713 00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:36,866 match his rifle. 714 00:34:42,581 --> 00:34:44,333 People come up to me all the time. 715 00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:48,503 They talk to me about needing to move on after Helen. 716 00:34:49,963 --> 00:34:52,090 "It's been years, mate," they say. 717 00:34:52,173 --> 00:34:54,342 "Time to let her go." 718 00:34:55,135 --> 00:34:57,471 Bit rich if you've never been there. 719 00:34:57,554 --> 00:35:00,181 Hear, hear. 720 00:35:00,974 --> 00:35:02,633 Uh, let's take a five-minute break. 721 00:35:05,812 --> 00:35:06,813 What are you doing here? 722 00:35:06,896 --> 00:35:09,357 We ran a ballistics check on your gun. 723 00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:11,193 Came back positive for the weapon used 724 00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:12,778 to kill Nate Holbrook. 725 00:35:12,861 --> 00:35:14,655 I don't understand. 726 00:35:14,738 --> 00:35:15,905 Yeah, we know. 727 00:35:15,989 --> 00:35:19,159 Hey, mate. White with two, just how you like it. 728 00:35:19,242 --> 00:35:21,953 Hi. I'm Luka. Welcome to the group. 729 00:35:22,037 --> 00:35:23,371 Jim Dempsey, AFP. 730 00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:25,540 Special Agent Michelle Mackey, NCIS. 731 00:35:25,624 --> 00:35:27,209 We were just talking to your friend Freddy 732 00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:28,377 about the murder of Nate Holbrook. 733 00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:29,586 Yeah, his rifle's a ballistics match 734 00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:31,296 to the gun the killer used. 735 00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:34,257 We're gonna need to take Freddy down to the station with us. 736 00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:37,386 Unless, of course, there's something else 737 00:35:37,469 --> 00:35:39,179 you want to tell us, Luka. 738 00:35:42,182 --> 00:35:44,934 Sorry, Freddy, this wasn't supposed to come back to you. 739 00:35:47,187 --> 00:35:48,563 I don't understand. 740 00:35:48,647 --> 00:35:51,274 I used my master key to access your rifle 741 00:35:51,358 --> 00:35:52,776 in the lock-up at the club. 742 00:35:55,654 --> 00:35:57,030 Wait. 743 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,783 You shot Nate Holbrook? 744 00:35:59,866 --> 00:36:01,368 He killed my kid. 745 00:36:02,494 --> 00:36:04,120 What was I gonna do? 746 00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:13,338 Freddy! 747 00:36:18,551 --> 00:36:20,721 Talk to me about the opal necklace. 748 00:36:20,804 --> 00:36:23,014 It was from the same seam of black opal 749 00:36:23,098 --> 00:36:26,601 that I discovered on the day I met Jacquie. 750 00:36:26,685 --> 00:36:28,312 Why leave it at the crime scene? 751 00:36:28,395 --> 00:36:29,979 What's the significance for Zoe? 752 00:36:30,063 --> 00:36:32,649 I couldn't have a relationship with her mum, 753 00:36:32,732 --> 00:36:34,109 so I thought... 754 00:36:35,694 --> 00:36:37,946 ...maybe I could connect with her. 755 00:36:39,739 --> 00:36:43,618 We arranged to meet face-to-face at the botanic gardens. 756 00:36:45,787 --> 00:36:47,622 She never showed. 757 00:36:49,791 --> 00:36:52,210 Her Navy boyfriend made sure of that. 758 00:36:52,293 --> 00:36:54,295 Nate didn't kill Zoe. 759 00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:59,509 What are you... What are you talking about? 760 00:37:02,137 --> 00:37:03,346 Course he did. 761 00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:04,723 There was... 762 00:37:04,806 --> 00:37:05,807 ...evidence. 763 00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:08,143 It was an open-and-shut case. It... 764 00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:12,272 There was no one else in the house that day. 765 00:37:12,355 --> 00:37:13,732 The cops were all over it. 766 00:37:13,815 --> 00:37:17,569 The police made some critical errors in their investigation. 767 00:37:17,652 --> 00:37:19,362 It was a murder-suicide. 768 00:37:19,446 --> 00:37:21,114 Brandon killed Zoe. 769 00:37:21,197 --> 00:37:23,116 Then he killed Jacquie, and then... 770 00:37:24,451 --> 00:37:25,827 ...himself. 771 00:37:27,162 --> 00:37:28,496 Over these. 772 00:37:33,293 --> 00:37:35,754 Your love letters to Jacquie. 773 00:37:35,837 --> 00:37:37,505 You quote the Beach Boys. 774 00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:39,591 That's how we knew they weren't for Zoe. 775 00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:41,342 The Beach Boys. 776 00:37:43,845 --> 00:37:47,557 That's what was playing on the night we first met. 777 00:37:50,727 --> 00:37:55,190 She was standing there in her hostess uniform, by the jukebox. 778 00:37:57,817 --> 00:37:59,527 I asked her to dance. 779 00:38:00,361 --> 00:38:04,449 I'd just discovered the mother lode of black opal. 780 00:38:06,075 --> 00:38:08,203 A seam as long as my arm. 781 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:14,334 I was 24 and rich beyond my wildest dreams. 782 00:38:16,461 --> 00:38:18,338 Suddenly, I couldn't care less. 783 00:38:20,673 --> 00:38:21,925 I didn't know it at the time, 784 00:38:22,008 --> 00:38:25,053 but that was the night we made Zoe. 785 00:38:36,689 --> 00:38:38,525 What have I done? 786 00:38:43,863 --> 00:38:46,700 We've actually decided to get him cremated here. 787 00:38:46,783 --> 00:38:49,619 Nate always loved the Australian bush. 788 00:38:50,703 --> 00:38:53,623 Well, there's no shortage of that around here. I mean... 789 00:38:53,706 --> 00:38:56,042 Blue Mountains would be my pick. 790 00:38:56,125 --> 00:38:58,170 Megalong Valley, something like that. 791 00:38:58,253 --> 00:39:00,129 -Mega-long? -Ha. 792 00:39:00,213 --> 00:39:01,798 Okay, I'll bear that in mind. 793 00:39:01,881 --> 00:39:04,551 There's a lookout where you get to watch the sun go down 794 00:39:04,634 --> 00:39:05,844 over two valleys. 795 00:39:06,970 --> 00:39:09,556 It makes you feel small, but in a good way. 796 00:39:12,433 --> 00:39:16,437 Don't suppose you'd... want to come along? 797 00:39:18,106 --> 00:39:21,192 Well, the place I'm talking about 798 00:39:21,276 --> 00:39:22,569 can be tricky to find, 799 00:39:22,652 --> 00:39:24,896 and I wouldn't want you getting lost out there. 800 00:39:31,661 --> 00:39:32,829 Tire iron. 801 00:39:33,663 --> 00:39:36,249 Similar to the one Nate used to change a flat tire. 802 00:39:36,332 --> 00:39:39,002 You're not still going on about the missing jack, are you? 803 00:39:39,085 --> 00:39:40,670 There was no one there to corroborate it. 804 00:39:40,753 --> 00:39:42,839 I deal in facts, Agent Mackey. 805 00:39:42,922 --> 00:39:45,425 Fact, he had the victim's blood on his clothes. 806 00:39:45,508 --> 00:39:47,135 Fact, fingerprints on the murder weapon. 807 00:39:47,218 --> 00:39:49,804 Fact, gunshot residue all over his hands. 808 00:39:49,888 --> 00:39:53,433 And all over yours right now. 809 00:39:54,767 --> 00:39:57,186 All that black powder on the tire rim, 810 00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:58,688 that's brake pad dust. 811 00:39:58,771 --> 00:40:01,691 When Nate changed the tire, he got it all over him. 812 00:40:01,774 --> 00:40:03,527 No, the police analyzed it. It was... 813 00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:08,948 Barium, the main ingredient in gunpowder and brake pad dust. 814 00:40:09,741 --> 00:40:11,326 Well, the police should have picked that up. 815 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:13,036 Maybe you should have too. 816 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:14,495 Might be an episode in that. 817 00:40:14,579 --> 00:40:16,456 Yeah. 818 00:40:23,463 --> 00:40:24,881 Hoo-hoo-hoo! 819 00:40:28,635 --> 00:40:30,345 Bull's-eye! 820 00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:33,348 Oh, bull's-eye, my arse! 821 00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:36,059 Off like old salami, mate. 822 00:40:36,142 --> 00:40:38,686 Fine. Show me what you got, girl. 823 00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:41,189 Oh, okay. 824 00:40:46,152 --> 00:40:49,072 Is there a cross-draft in here? You feel that? 825 00:40:49,155 --> 00:40:50,657 Uh-huh. 826 00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:52,993 Come on, guys, wrap it up. We're closed. 827 00:40:53,076 --> 00:40:55,453 We just need a couple more minutes to finish this off. 828 00:40:55,536 --> 00:40:56,496 Thank you. 829 00:40:58,331 --> 00:41:02,877 Next closest to the center is the champion of the world. 830 00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:04,462 You're on.